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Post by MarioMaster1337 on Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:08 am

Abortion seems to be a very common topic of debate these days. Should women be able to abort their unborn babies? Or should it be made illegal? Discuss.

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Re: Abortion

Post by shotguhn on Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:41 am

I believe it should be made illegal, but there are common ways around the law so, I can't really take a stand here.
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Re: Abortion

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:11 am

Why should it be illegal? The whole thing is a moral decision. Like cigarettes. Some people smoke. Is smoking good? No. But it's the decision of the smoker. Granted the world might be better off if smoking were illegal so the example is kinda faulty but the concepts there. If it does not bother you to kill the embryo go on ahead, what should stop you? Don't come crying when Einstein II takes a bit too long to be born because he keep getting aborted by accident.

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Re: Abortion

Post by shotguhn on Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:59 am

Secondary thought on your statement, do we really WANT another Einstein?? Reason being, he created the formula that created the nuclear bomb, (and everything wireless so, I counter act this but still) Einstein 2 could make something worse.
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Re: Abortion

Post by SNESkelly on Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:27 pm

Answer to original question:
Abortion is quite frankly a right for a female, it's a monstrosity to deny it. Girls should be allowed to enjoy sex and have a safety net for when things don't go according to plan (and they truly don't always go according to plan).
Belief of the contrary is such an idiotic and outdated view that in England no political party would ever back it because it's too conservative - something which American politicians don't seem worried about (but let's leave the rant about the embarrassment that is American politics out of this).
The fact is that an embryo has no sort of conciousness, and you lose your right to abort when the child reaches a near-human stage anyway. If you have qualms about destroying an embryo, then you've got to feel bad about the countless amount of insects you've accidentally killed. The fact is that the unborn child is not yet human, and not yet alive.
In addition to current abortion laws, however, there should be leeway for the father to protect the life of his baby. I have no idea how that law would be draughted, and to be honest it will probably never happen. But it's a thought.

In regards to Einstein, of course we want another. Leaps and bounds in physics? Yes please. But leave that for another thread.
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Re: Abortion

Post by Boo The Ghostie on Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:31 pm

I absolutely agree with SNESkelly. I believe abortion should definitely be legal and that it's a little closed minded to think other-wise. Woman should have the right to decide whether to get an abortion or not. I mean, they're the ones who will be giving birth to the child- they should be able to choose.

There is a law waiting to be either shot down or passed here in Ohio that would basically make abortion illegal and to be honest, I was pretty upset when I read about it. I don't think it's right for lawmakers to decide whether a woman can choose between having a child and getting an abortion. It just doesn't seem fair to me.
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Re: Abortion

Post by SNESkelly on Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:55 pm

On the other hand, I wouldn't say it was 100% woman decision - half of that baby is the man's, and he should have some say in the matter.

But yeah, I can't think of 3 modern arguments that would go against abortion - and no, religious reasons do not qualify, get out.
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Re: Abortion

Post by ThatKrypton on Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:20 pm

Yes, for reasons of personal choice and liberties, and also because if it's made illegal, it will be practiced illegally and dangerously in the back-alley traditions of yore.
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Re: Abortion

Post by Guest on Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:19 pm

ThatKrypton wrote:if it's made illegal, it will be practiced illegally and dangerously in the back-alley traditions of yore.

That's so true.

Also, I don't see what makes abortion so "wrong". Particularly if the choice is made before the foetus developed any form of cognition.

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Re: Abortion

Post by Soroside on Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:52 pm

I believe it should stay legal. Because, what if she was violated? Should she keep a child of that evil man? Not to mention that she is the one who has to suffer through it all, and if a women wants to have an abortion I don't see why anyone else s opinion on it should matter at all.
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Re: Abortion

Post by SNESkelly on Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:11 pm

Soroside wrote:I believe it should stay legal. Because, what if she was violated? Should she keep a child of that evil man? Not to mention that she is the one who has to suffer through it all, and if a women wants to have an abortion I don't see why anyone else s opinion on it should matter at all.
Agreed. This was a problem in Germany after the war (and in nearly every war ever), when Russian soldiers were told to go out and spread their seed, so that a Russian identity was artificially implanted into Germany. Not cool.
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